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Perry Morris |
Bats: Right Throws: Right Height: 6' 2'' Weight: 230 Born: January 2, 1955 in Usa |
Ratings - Pitching Help | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
ERA | AVG | 2B | 3B | HR | BB | SO | |||||||||||||||||||
Year | Age | Tm | Lg | Salary | OA | vL | vR | OA | vL | vR | OA | vL | vR | OA | vL | vR | OA | vL | vR | OA | vL | vR | OA | ||
1974 | 19 | LV | FL | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 6 | 7 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 4 | |||
1975 | 20 | BIR | FL | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 4 | |||
1976 | 21 | BIR | FL | 0 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 6 | 7 | 6 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 6 | 7 | 6 | 4 | 5 | 4 | |||
1977 | 22 | BIR | FL | 0 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 6 | 7 | 6 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 4 | 5 | 4 | |||
1978 | 23 | JAX | JL | 2 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 6 | 7 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 8 | |||
1979 | 24 | BAL | JL | 3 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 6 | 7 | 6 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | |||
1980 | 25 | NO | FL | $ 300,000 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 6 | 7 | 6 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 6 | 7 | 6 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 8 | 8 | ||
OOTP5 Min Ratings | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 4 | ||||||
OOTP5 Max Ratings | $ 300,000 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 6 | 7 | 6 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 8 | 8 | |||||
Stuff | Control | Movement | |||||||||||||||||||||||
Year | Age | Tm | Lg | Salary | Endurance | vL | vR | OA | vL | vR | OA | vL | vR | OA | |||||||||||
1981 | 26 | NO | FL | $ 300,000 | 52 | 11 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 15 | 14 | |||||||||||
1982 | 27 | SLC | FL | 52 | 13 | 14 | 14 | 13 | 14 | 13 | 13 | 15 | 14 | ||||||||||||
1983 | 28 | SLC | FL | $ 300,000 | 56 | 14 | 14 | 14 | 13 | 14 | 14 | 13 | 15 | 14 | |||||||||||
1984 | 29 | SLC | FL | $ 300,000 | 56 | 13 | 14 | 13 | 13 | 14 | 14 | 13 | 15 | 14 | |||||||||||
1985 | 30 | LBC | FL | $ 350,000 | 56 | 12 | 13 | 13 | 13 | 14 | 14 | 13 | 15 | 14 | |||||||||||
1986 | 31 | LBC | FL | $ 350,000 | 56 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 13 | 13 | 15 | 14 | |||||||||||
1987 | 32 | LBC | FL | $ 350,000 | 60 | 11 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 14 | 13 | 15 | 14 | |||||||||||
OOTP6 Min Ratings | 52 | 11 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 15 | 14 | |||||||||||||||
OOTP6 Max Ratings | $ 350,000 | 60 | 14 | 14 | 14 | 13 | 14 | 14 | 13 | 15 | 14 |
Ratings - Batting Help | ||||||||||||||||||||||
AVG | 2B | 3B | HR | BB | SO | |||||||||||||||||
Year | Age | Tm | Lg | Salary | vL | vR | OA | vL | vR | OA | vL | vR | OA | vL | vR | OA | vL | vR | OA | vL | vR | OA |
1974 | 19 | LV | FL | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | |
1975 | 20 | BIR | FL | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | |
1976 | 21 | BIR | FL | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | |
1977 | 22 | BIR | FL | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | |
1978 | 23 | JAX | JL | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | |
1979 | 24 | BAL | JL | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | |
1980 | 25 | NO | FL | $ 300,000 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 |
OOTP5 Min Ratings | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | ||||
OOTP5 Max Ratings | $ 300,000 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | |||
Contact | Power | Gap | Eye | Ks | ||||||||||||||||||
Year | Age | Tm | Lg | Salary | vL | vR | OA | vL | vR | OA | vL | vR | OA | vL | vR | OA | vL | vR | OA | |||
1981 | 26 | NO | FL | $ 300,000 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 6 | |||
1982 | 27 | SLC | FL | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 6 | ||||
1983 | 28 | SLC | FL | $ 300,000 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 6 | |||
1984 | 29 | SLC | FL | $ 300,000 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 6 | |||
1985 | 30 | LBC | FL | $ 350,000 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 6 | |||
1986 | 31 | LBC | FL | $ 350,000 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 6 | |||
1987 | 32 | LBC | FL | $ 350,000 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 6 | |||
OOTP6 Min Ratings | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 6 | |||||||
OOTP6 Max Ratings | $ 350,000 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 6 |
Pitching Stats Help | |||||||||||||||||||||||
Bold lines indicate player won Owner's Choice - Pitcher Award or Owner's Choice - Rookie Award. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
Year | Age | Tm | Lg | W | L | Pct | G | GS | CG | SHO | SV | IP | H | ER | HR | BB | SO | ERA | OAVG | OOBP | OSLG | OOPS | PWS |
1974 | 19 | A | 2 | 2 | .500 | 37 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 28.0 | 28 | 8 | 3 | 10 | 16 | 2.57 | .283 | .349 | .374 | .722 | ||
1975 | 20 | A | 1 | 3 | .250 | 40 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 69.7 | 70 | 28 | 11 | 15 | 54 | 3.62 | .262 | .301 | .404 | .706 | ||
1976 | 21 | AA | 0 | 0 | .000 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 4.0 | 8 | 4 | 0 | 1 | 4 | 9.00 | .400 | .429 | .550 | .979 | ||
A | 5 | 0 | 1.000 | 31 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 47.3 | 37 | 10 | 2 | 9 | 39 | 1.90 | .216 | .256 | .263 | .519 | ||||
1977 | 22 | AA | 1 | 3 | .250 | 39 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 52.3 | 62 | 25 | 12 | 12 | 37 | 4.30 | .305 | .344 | .512 | .857 | ||
A | 0 | 1 | .000 | 14 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 20.7 | 15 | 5 | 0 | 4 | 16 | 2.18 | .203 | .244 | .257 | .500 | ||||
1978 | 23 | AA | 7 | 4 | .636 | 58 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 78.0 | 83 | 34 | 10 | 19 | 79 | 3.92 | .269 | .312 | .399 | .711 | ||
1979 | 24 | AAA | 2 | 4 | .333 | 22 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 24.0 | 37 | 27 | 5 | 11 | 26 | 10.13 | .352 | .414 | .571 | .985 | ||
AA | 0 | 0 | .000 | 5 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 6.0 | 8 | 5 | 0 | 2 | 7 | 7.50 | .320 | .370 | .360 | .730 | ||||
1980 | 25 | NO | FL | 2 | 2 | .500 | 36 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 44.3 | 55 | 26 | 4 | 17 | 33 | 5.28 | .313 | .378 | .426 | .804 | 0.5 |
AAA | 0 | 0 | .000 | 19 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 22.7 | 29 | 14 | 4 | 8 | 31 | 5.56 | .315 | .370 | .511 | .881 | ||||
1981 | 26 | NO | FL | 2 | 7 | .222 | 48 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 60.0 | 63 | 35 | 10 | 29 | 33 | 5.25 | .268 | .357 | .472 | .829 | 1.1 |
1982 | 27 | AAA | 13 | 3 | .813 | 25 | 24 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 148.0 | 156 | 52 | 5 | 45 | 157 | 3.16 | .272 | .325 | .369 | .694 | ||
1983 | 28 | SLC | FL | 0 | 2 | .000 | 12 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 26.7 | 28 | 12 | 3 | 16 | 10 | 4.05 | .275 | .378 | .441 | .819 | 1.3 |
AAA | 4 | 3 | .571 | 20 | 15 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 98.7 | 107 | 48 | 13 | 39 | 94 | 4.38 | .272 | .338 | .445 | .783 | ||||
1984 | 29 | SLC | FL | 8 | 10 | .444 | 29 | 29 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 163.0 | 193 | 87 | 12 | 53 | 86 | 4.80 | .299 | .352 | .435 | .787 | 6.0 |
1985 | 30 | LBC | FL | 6 | 15 | .286 | 32 | 27 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 142.0 | 157 | 75 | 18 | 62 | 69 | 4.75 | .278 | .351 | .440 | .790 | 4.8 |
1986 | 31 | LBC | FL | 5 | 4 | .556 | 38 | 20 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 123.0 | 146 | 74 | 14 | 49 | 69 | 5.41 | .295 | .363 | .434 | .798 | 5.2 |
1987 | 32 | LBC | FL | 0 | 0 | .000 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.7 | 5 | 5 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 68.18 | .714 | .750 | 1.143 | 1.893 | 0.0 |
AAA | 9 | 5 | .643 | 24 | 24 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 135.0 | 146 | 60 | 21 | 55 | 138 | 4.00 | .274 | .342 | .445 | .786 | ||||
1988 | 33 | AAA | 9 | 9 | .500 | 28 | 28 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 160.7 | 199 | 92 | 21 | 49 | 165 | 5.15 | .299 | .347 | .468 | .815 | ||
7 Years Sim | 23 | 40 | .365 | 196 | 79 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 559.7 | 647 | 314 | 61 | 227 | 300 | 5.05 | .291 | .359 | .442 | .801 | 18.8 | |||
6 Years AAA | 37 | 24 | .607 | 138 | 92 | 0 | 0 | 6 | 589.0 | 674 | 293 | 69 | 207 | 611 | 4.48 | .285 | .343 | .441 | .784 | ||||
4 Years AA | 8 | 7 | .533 | 105 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 6 | 140.3 | 161 | 68 | 22 | 34 | 127 | 4.36 | .290 | .331 | .444 | .775 | ||||
4 Years A | 8 | 6 | .571 | 122 | 11 | 0 | 0 | 9 | 165.7 | 150 | 51 | 16 | 38 | 125 | 2.77 | .245 | .290 | .342 | .632 | ||||
14 Years Minors | 53 | 37 | .589 | 365 | 110 | 0 | 0 | 21 | 895.0 | 985 | 412 | 107 | 279 | 863 | 4.14 | .279 | .332 | .425 | .756 | ||||
Season Average | 3 | 5 | .375 | 28 | 11 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 80.0 | 92 | 44 | 8 | 32 | 42 | 5.05 | .291 | .359 | .442 | .801 | ||||
Career Highs | 8 | 15 | .556 | 48 | 29 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 163.0 | 193 | 87 | 18 | 62 | 86 | 68.18 | .714 | .750 | 1.143 | 1.893 |
Career Pitching Splits Help | |||||||||||||||||||
Click on a Category to view yearly stats. | |||||||||||||||||||
Category | W | L | Pct | G | GS | CG | SHO | SV | IP | H | ER | HR | BB | SO | ERA | OAVG | OOBP | OSLG | OOPS |
vs RH | 297 | 152 | 21 | 98 | 146 | .280 | .341 | .399 | .740 | ||||||||||
vs LH | 350 | 162 | 40 | 129 | 154 | .300 | .370 | .481 | .851 | ||||||||||
Home | 13 | 20 | .394 | 102 | 41 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 298.7 | 339 | 162 | 28 | 113 | 164 | 4.88 | .283 | .345 | .425 | .770 |
Away | 10 | 20 | .333 | 94 | 38 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 261.0 | 308 | 152 | 33 | 114 | 136 | 5.24 | .300 | .370 | .461 | .831 |
Mar/Apr | 3 | 5 | .375 | 27 | 12 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 85.0 | 74 | 36 | 11 | 34 | 50 | 3.81 | .236 | .311 | .393 | .704 |
May | 4 | 10 | .286 | 27 | 17 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 97.3 | 123 | 71 | 13 | 31 | 46 | 6.57 | .307 | .356 | .479 | .835 |
June | 5 | 9 | .357 | 32 | 14 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 99.6 | 105 | 54 | 8 | 48 | 54 | 4.88 | .273 | .353 | .410 | .764 |
July | 6 | 3 | .667 | 38 | 11 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 97.3 | 124 | 45 | 12 | 33 | 50 | 4.16 | .312 | .365 | .479 | .844 |
August | 2 | 7 | .222 | 42 | 13 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 98.6 | 134 | 61 | 11 | 41 | 56 | 5.57 | .324 | .385 | .479 | .865 |
Sep/Oct | 3 | 6 | .333 | 30 | 12 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 81.7 | 87 | 47 | 6 | 40 | 44 | 5.18 | .275 | .357 | .386 | .743 |
Batting Stats Help | |||||||||||||||||||||
Bold lines indicate player won Owner's Choice - Hitter Award or Owner's Choice - Rookie Award. | |||||||||||||||||||||
Year | Age | Tm | Lg | G | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | SB | CS | BB | SO | AVG | OBP | SLG | OPS | XR | OWS |
1980 | 25 | NO | FL | 36 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 | -0.5 | 0.0 |
1981 | 26 | NO | FL | 48 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 | -0.2 | 0.0 |
1983 | 28 | SLC | FL | 12 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 | -0.2 | 0.0 |
1984 | 29 | SLC | FL | 29 | 51 | 4 | 4 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 17 | .078 | .078 | .157 | .235 | -1.1 | 0.0 |
1985 | 30 | LBC | FL | 32 | 39 | 0 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 12 | .077 | .098 | .103 | .200 | -0.7 | 0.0 |
1986 | 31 | LBC | FL | 38 | 35 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 9 | .057 | .057 | .086 | .143 | -2.1 | 0.0 |
6 Years Sim | 195 | 135 | 5 | 9 | 3 | 0 | 1 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 42 | .067 | .073 | .111 | .184 | -4.8 | 0.0 | |||
162 Game Average | 112 | 4 | 7 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 34 | .067 | .073 | .111 | .184 | -4.0 | |||||
Career Highs | 48 | 51 | 4 | 4 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 17 | .078 | .098 | .157 | .235 | -0.2 |
Career Batting Splits Help | |||||||||||||||||
Click on a Category to view yearly stats. | |||||||||||||||||
Category | G | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | SB | CS | BB | SO | AVG | OBP | SLG | OPS | XR |
vs RH | 98 | 2 | 6 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 30 | .061 | .070 | .092 | .162 | -4.8 | |
vs LH | 37 | 3 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 12 | .081 | .081 | .162 | .243 | -0.8 | |
Home | 101 | 64 | 2 | 4 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 18 | .063 | .077 | .078 | .155 | -3.2 |
Away | 67 | 71 | 3 | 5 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 24 | .070 | .069 | .141 | .210 | -2.5 |
RISP | 37 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 12 | .027 | .026 | .027 | .053 | -3.0 | |
Close/Late | 3 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | .333 | .333 | .333 | .667 | 0.3 | |
Mar/Apr | 12 | 23 | 1 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 6 | .130 | .130 | .174 | .304 | -0.2 |
May | 17 | 28 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 11 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 | -2.7 |
June | 32 | 25 | 2 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 5 | .120 | .154 | .280 | .434 | 0.9 |
July | 36 | 23 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 8 | .087 | .087 | .130 | .217 | -0.8 |
August | 28 | 20 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 8 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 | -1.9 |
Sep/Oct | 21 | 16 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 4 | .063 | .063 | .063 | .125 | -0.9 |
Fielding Stats Help | ||||||||||||||||||
Bold lines indicate player won Slick Fielder Award. | ||||||||||||||||||
Year | Age | Tm | Lg | Pos | G | GS | IP | PO | A | E | DP | FPct | RF | |||||
1980 | 25 | NO | FL | P | 36 | 1 | 44.3 | 3 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 1.000 | 2.03 | |||||
1981 | 26 | NO | FL | P | 48 | 0 | 60.0 | 4 | 12 | 0 | 2 | 1.000 | 2.40 | |||||
1983 | 28 | SLC | FL | P | 12 | 2 | 26.7 | 3 | 2 | 0 | 2 | 1.000 | 1.69 | |||||
1984 | 29 | SLC | FL | P | 29 | 29 | 163.0 | 14 | 28 | 4 | 3 | .913 | 2.32 | |||||
1985 | 30 | LBC | FL | P | 32 | 27 | 142.0 | 7 | 27 | 2 | 3 | .944 | 2.15 | |||||
1986 | 31 | LBC | FL | P | 38 | 20 | 123.0 | 6 | 17 | 0 | 3 | 1.000 | 1.68 | |||||
1987 | 32 | LBC | FL | P | 1 | 0 | 0.7 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | .000 | 0.00 | |||||
Career Totals | 196 | 79 | 559.7 | 37 | 93 | 6 | 13 | .956 | 2.09 | |||||||||
Career Highs | 48 | 29 | 163.0 | 14 | 28 | 4 | 3 | 1.000 | 2.40 |
Pitching Leaderboards Help | ||||||
Top 10 finishes. Stats are Year-Rank-Value. League leaders are in bold. Season Rankings are League Based. | ||||||
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Black Ink Test: 0 (Avg Pitcher in HOF ~ 38) Gray Ink Test: 0 (Avg Pitcher in HOF ~ 149) |
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History |
Drafted in 3rd round, 68th overall pick, by Las Vegas in 1974 |
Traded from Las Vegas to Birmingham on 2/20/1975 (Going to BIR: 1B X. Consolo, P P. Morris. Going to LV: 3B D. Addington) |
Traded from Birmingham to Jacksonville on 5/21/1978 (Going to BIR: RF M. Cervantes. Going to JAX: P P. Morris, SS K. Bartholemew) |
Traded from Baltimore to New Orleans on 7/2/1980 (Going to NO: P P. Morris. Going to BAL: P B. Frumpkey) |
Earned first career win on 7/10/1980 |
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